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JairoBent



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:03 am    Post subject: Looking for an aggressive creature Reply with quote

Hello there, I'm building a BRG deck that has no non-basics and a minimum of mana fixing, the deck is a low curve zoo style, right now I'm running some great creatures like Tarmogoyf, Grim Lavamancer, Dark Confidant, Eternal Witness (not very good as its not as aggressive) and (the much less impressive) Kird Ape. I've been shuffling Kitchen Finks in and out in the remaining slot, but I'm undecided.

Can you think of a good creature for a deck like this? I would like something that can block a thresholed mongoose or at least trade, or that can kill a big goyf after a lightning bolt. Thanks in advance for your help!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

putrid leech?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, if you have fetches, you can have one random plains and be able to use Wild Nacatyl. That's probably the best creature you can get since you named the other good choices already.

If no plains is possible it gets kind of rough picking. I'll just name off a bunch and let you see if any fits the spot. Keep in mind I'm really stretching.

Black has these

Tombstalker
Sarcomancy
Nantuko Shade
Flesh Reaver (if you feel really daring)
Rotting Giant
Wretched Anurid
Hand of Cruelty
Black Knight


Red:
Kird Ape
Keldon Marauder
Figure of Destiny


Green
Hidden Gibbons
Skarrgan Pit-Skulk
Skyshroud Elite
Quirion Dryad
Nimble Mongoose
Kitchen Finks

Gold
Putrid Leech


You can always use a spell if need be and Jund Charm is actually not bad since it pumps.


Just some ideas.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have considered most of those creatures already at some point and dismissed most of them for one reason to another. Maybe I should go utility and use the goblin that destroys artifacts if you play red, not really aggressive but at least utility. I hope I'm still overlooking some good cards, but sadly I can't think of any better choices.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not terribly agressive, but can you support the mana for Ohran Viper? (I suspect you can if you've been playing Finks)

It kills goyfs and mongeeses in combat (and, well, anythind else), and it'll even do something useful against decks without those two creatures.

I know it's not the most exciting card in this world.

There's always River Boa for perpetual blocking, but it's not much good at killing things.

And there's the Echo troll (I forget its name).
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vampire Nighthawk. I'm not even joking.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you say non basic are you referring to all non basic lands are will you be using Fetch Lands?

If you do run Fetches I would suggest Knight of the Reliquary. At best he can be a 5/5 turn 3, more often a 3/3 or 4/4, and can be used to fix mana with a +2/+2 boost as well. It would also help him grow if you do star running non basics for your opponent to blow up
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I meant "all basics", I'm using fetchlands though. Knight of the reliquary isn't in my colors, otherwise I would probably run Nacatl.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JairoBent wrote:
I meant "all basics", I'm using fetchlands though. Knight of the reliquary isn't in my colors, otherwise I would probably run Nacatl.


Oops. Sorry Fink threw me off Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I kind of like the Nighthawk or Ohran Viper ideas the best.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Vampire Nighthawk. I'm not even joking.


Agree. Vampire Nighthawk rocks!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Troll ascetic sounds good, Tombstalker is better if you can hit BB by midgame.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rsaunder wrote:
Troll ascetic sounds good, Tombstalker is better if you can hit BB by midgame.



It might or might not happen, I'm afraid, also I'm running high in Grim lavamancers which are cool like that.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My personal preference for situations like this are cards that can be cast under multiple mana circumstances:
Guildmages (Golgari, Rakdos, Gruul)
Tattermunge Maniac
Wild Cantor
Odious Trow
Boggart Ram-Gang
Ashenmoor Gouger
Fulminator Mage
Stalker Hag
Giantbaiting (sorta)

The G/B, B/R or R/G Lieges from Shadowmoor might also serve. Expensive for an aggro deck but the boost can be savage. Broodmate Dragon also falls under this category.

Utility creatures like Hag Hedge-Mage, Thunderscape Battlemage, Thunderscape Familiar, Hellhole Rats, Flametongue Kavu, Acidic Sliver and Vexing Shusher all come to mind.

Spells that might suit are Hit/Run and Putrefy.

One interesting thought might be Sedge Sliver. I don't know what kind of deck you're running, but a 3/3 regenerator for 3 isn't bad.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hypnotic specter(great card advantage, especially because your opponents will have tons of creatures they have to kill so maybe he's not just a three mana "discard opponents bolt or STP"
Skragmaw (great for utility, a beat stick, or card advantage
lotus cobra (see "totally broken one drop" for discription)
were bear (great early or late, you rarely are disapointed to draw him)
Negator(wins or loses games, depends on meta, maybe even in the sboard
troll ascetic (prolly the best green aggro three drop
ravenous baloth(helps win the "mirror" match, against another zoo
flame toungue kavu (if you can find the mana he's fantastic in legacy
viridian elite (great utility on a two power creature for a green and one
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ophidon wrote:
flame toungue kavu (if you can find the mana he's fantastic in legacy


He really doesn't kill anything of value for four mana. By the time you can cast him, Dark Confidant has already drawn two or three cards, Tarmogoyf is a 4/5, and Lackey has put two goblins in play. Control and Combo decks will rarely present a target.

He's still fabulous in casual legacy (I play four in my budget r/g deck), but not in serious legacy.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe sprouting thrinax, depending on the mana situation? I would probably just stick with kitchen finks though. Stalker hag is also an interesting suggestion. Creatures that are unblockable 40% of the time are pretty schweet.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe sprouting thrinax, depending on the mana situation? I would probably just stick with kitchen finks though. Stalker hag is also an interesting suggestion. Creatures that are unblockable 40% of the time are pretty schweet.

I would have suggested gatekeeper of malakir, but then I read the manabase thing. No nonbasics make gatekeeper a sad panda (vampire panda)
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kpmuad wrote:
Maybe sprouting thrinax, depending on the mana situation? I would probably just stick with kitchen finks though. Stalker hag is also an interesting suggestion. Creatures that are unblockable 40% of the time are pretty schweet.


40% if people played monocolor only in a truly random fashion, assuming all colors are equal.

What you should really look at is the percentage of people who play Goyf or UB Dreadstill or combo or MBA or Loam/Lands or Reanimator or Survival or Elves etc.. you should be unblockable vs at least 75% of the field.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forestwalk is huge, almost as big as islandwalk. You can't overlook him as unblockable against pretty much every deck in the format that would have a way to block him in the first place. (not combo, some merfolk or landstill... what else doesnt pack forests and goyf now?)
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